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FBIAGENT	Apr-02-00, 01:46 AM (EST)
"Tamil Movies: Educating Or Misleading The Public?"
Are Tamil movies educating or misleading the public? Some movies seek to provide answers to problems faced by society and individuals while other movies insist on focussing their complete attention on trivial matters such as love. Why is that? Is it right? Is it time for a change? What sort of change should it be? Answers...answers...answers. Forever seeking answers. "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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UsaGirl	Apr-02-00, 01:36 PM (EST)
1. "bluh bluh"
I think Tamil movies have a long way to go..... that's all i gotta say... I know this isn't very explanatory but...... tamil movies got a long way to go to reach the public.......or inspire them........ **peace**
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-02-00, 09:28 PM (EST)
	2. "Then..."
	Why do people still watch them? "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	Thanuja	Nov-16-00, 02:43 PM (EST)
	67. "RE: Then..."
	i think people still watch tamil movies because they believe that they will do something good with the story but its waste of time believing them.
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Prince Charming	Apr-02-00, 11:38 PM (EST)
3. "lessons from Tamil movies"
when guys in problem/mess, go get yourself drunk when girls in problem/mess, go commit suicide. if a girl get raped, do whatever possible to get married to the rapist. plagiarizing is ok, as long make some adaptation and alteration.
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IceKutti	Apr-03-00, 00:12 AM (EST)
4. "oh the humanity... "
many tamil movies are ... *gag* becomin *gag*.. u know... whoa..... bad feeling.. they still have 100 fights and 100 rapes and 500 love songs.. and still with the "mudal iravu" finding the date.. the time.... oh brother..... why we keep on watchin it... cuz we got no vera vellai.... this ##### is really misleadin.. cuz some early teen kids are beginning to imitate like movie heros... oh brother!! i myself saw loosus in sl who got the getto of abbas... getto of p.deva, getto of rajni.... aiyooooo kadavuley... thollai thaangamudiyala.... not only guys... i am not tryin to be bad... girls are goin stupid too.... i dunno how that works.. i am too tired to think.. spare me.
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-05-00, 09:54 AM (EST)
	5. "Enna girls mattum okva?"
	Nagma suit, Ramba suit, Simran suit, Meena suit, Kushboo suit, intha suit, antha suit, en suit, un suit, etc...etc... Vara pora ellarukum Aishwarya Rai alati Simran ninapu. Vanthu schoola parkanum. Thaanga mudiyala! "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	IceKutti	Apr-05-00, 08:51 PM (EST)
	6. "oh yeah.. thanks ;)"
	i was wondering how to do the girls part... since u knwo abotu it... tanks... i think its dumb that peeps tryin to be some moviestar... *gag* ~ÏçêKüTTî~
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-06-00, 03:01 PM (EST)
	7. "I AGREE!!"
	LAST EDITED ON Apr-06-00 AT 03:02 PM (EST) I totally agree with you! What a bunch of retards trying to copy the film stars. Ennatha copy panni, ennatha pannaporangalo! I totally agree. What's the point of copying the stars. Hmm... "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGEN
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	IceKutti	Apr-06-00, 09:15 PM (EST)
	8. "loosu paiya.....!!!!"
	even if they copy it... atleast they could do a fair job in it.. its usually lousy.. ungala sollaley! ~ÏçêKüTTî~
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-07-00, 03:57 AM (EST)
	9. "Styleu styleu thaan, super styleu thaan..."
	Thank you, thank you, thank you... Ennodaya piranthathu, oru naalum pohathu. "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	IceKutti	Apr-07-00, 11:15 AM (EST)
	10. "*rolling on the floor laffing*"
	hahahahhahaha.... ooops (runs to the washroom and throws up.) ~ÏçêKüTTî~
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-08-00, 00:35 AM (EST)
	11. "Did I miss a joke here?"
	"The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	IceKutti	Apr-14-00, 05:52 PM (EST)
	14. "uh-huh"
	there was a joke.. if u didnt catch it at the first stage. then no use catchin it again ~ÏçêKüTTî~
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MKB	Apr-14-00, 04:22 PM (EST)
12. "Of all the people here who voted MISLEADING"
Im voting educating. Yes thats right Im voting educating, movies are educating. But that depends on who watches the movie and wat movie your watching. Much like Rajini and Kamal, being picky to release a single movie in a year. I too watch selective hits. The most recommend movies. I see the movies to be educating, because I listen to the VASANUM. That is, I listen to the lyrics and to their lines. I realized many don't do that! You guys are viewing objectively, not subjectively....... Only time you listen to a character is when there is a one line catch phrase. That goes the same with the songs, how do you think Muquabula got popular.......GOOD dancing, and the song is easy to summarize......... Can anyone tell me wat the hell is the meaning to MUQUABULA? Even look at all the Rajani movies, can any of you remember any line from any movie that didn't include a catch phrase.......... Remember, this line "MUTALUKU ORU VALI, In tha UMBALATARUKU AIYURA VALI"..... I was sure this was a catch phrase, only many of you must of been the MUTAL! to not notice this. Then there was another line, same movie(MUTHU).....said by Rajini......I don't believe it became popular either, it goes something like this "KEDAIKURATHU KEDAIKUM, KEDAIKATHATHU KEDAIKATHU" I believe this line is pretty educating, teaches you a lesson on life......but people failed to recognize this...... And the only scenes you guys do see is people getting drunk, raped, kissing scenes, etc. (I call this the STONE ANGEL) "Bhaya"
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	IceKutti	Apr-14-00, 05:50 PM (EST)
	13. "erm..."
	lettin ya know.. i seen muthu more than 100 times and i heard that catch phrase delivered by raatha ravi in it...... its not that easy to miss it.... we all alter it to fit our stupid personality.... mmm ~ÏçêKüTTî~
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	MKB	Apr-14-00, 06:38 PM (EST)
	15. "Enough said...."
	"Bhaya"
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	IceKutti	Apr-22-00, 03:17 PM (EST)
	19. "i am hurted!"
	ER...... why did i say that..? ignore me.. (walks back to her kennel) ~ÏçêKüTTî~
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	MKB	Apr-25-00, 12:08 PM (EST)
	43. "YOU GUYS KILL ME!"
	hahahahhahah You and your american english......... We don't live in E-gloos.....Nor do we eat Blubber. I don't know about you...... but we pronounce it ABOUT.....NOT A-Boot. This country is bilingual.....we have English-Anglais French-Francais. The beaver is a proud animal..... Its pronounced ZED not Zeeeeeee Canada is the second biggest land mass.... I AM A CANADIAN citizen, thats all! "Bhaya"
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	IceKutti	Apr-25-00, 01:04 PM (EST)
	44. "have u completely lost it all of a sudden?"
	MKB, you just scared me.... so u are still alive... and thanks for singing ur national anthem..!! ~ÏçêKüTTî~
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	MKB	Apr-26-00, 10:05 AM (EST)
	57. "Does this answer your question......"
	Y'all going to make me LOOSE my MIND! Up in here, up in here. Y'all going to make me GO all OUT! Up in here, up in here. Y'all going to make me ACT A FOOL! Up in here, up in here. Y'all going to make me LOOSE MY COOL! Up in here, up in here. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!! "Bhaya"
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	IceKutti	Apr-26-00, 10:33 AM (EST)
	58. "hahahahahahaha........ "
	i think thats a really good thing... i mean.... its not a bad thing.. but a good thing.. ~ÏçêKüTTî~
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	mpancha	Jul-22-00, 01:09 PM (EST)
	62. "RE: Of all the people here who voted MISLEADING"
	for once I agree with all that you said. ********** You don't love a woman because she is beautiful, She is beautiful because you love her. **********
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Shelina	Apr-21-00, 10:08 PM (EST)
16. "There are some....."
There are tamil movies that may not be inspiring but definitely take an effort to pass a message to the public....for example 'Indian' deals with the problem of bribery at higher levels, 'Desia Geetham' with the poverty and lack of facilities in the villages, 'Mudhalavan' with corruption and so on. Not passing a message is no problem but I hope tamil movies don't show things that give ideas to the public to go the wrong way. For example, the murder scene in the movie 'Assai' where Prakash Raj kills his wife.....and the way in which he holds his baby under the rain so that he/she gets sick! It was pathetic! although english movies are leagues ahead in terms of story and quality, there are some that may help to boost the crime level.....there is a new movie coming out called 'Gone in 60 seconds'.....it shows how the hero and heroine steal 50 odd cars in a day, and ways by which u can steal each car within 60 secs. How useful is that to the public? -Shelina
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	anu	Apr-22-00, 10:52 AM (EST)
	17. " me votes for ..."
	definetley misleading... yaroo... sonna mathi..thola thanga mudhyalla... ovaritharukum ovaru ninaypu... a freak from our school ...once had the nerve to actually blast full length.." naan thum adhikira styla pathu..thanalakshmi..." blah blah.. there was another freak... .. i think everytime he sees a tamil girl, this is what he does... he blasts this one particular song.... "nee kathru naan marum,..ena sonalum thalathuven..." three days in a row.... do u have any idea how annoying that is???.... then there those truely pathetic... who decide age doesn't matter... an example 16 yr old girl standing for the bus every day... 30 yrs old geezer.. sees her everyday... what does he do .. he decides that he's" likes." her.... so what does he do.. he decides to make it a point to bother her every single damn school day... waving... oogling. the whole works... what does he think... that hes "romancing" her like in the movies.. what does girl think.. that hes stalkin her... this is how sad the world has come to be.... i'm not just blaming guys.. some t. girls are just as freaky... the way some ppl dress... its just messed up... and the way they treat "their guys"..its relly sad..as if they are nilambari or somethin.. what da heck???? then there are those who disgrace.. the genders.. both guys and girls.. 1st period there with one guy or girl .. and the 2nd period there with another.... and what do they do at lunch talk on there stupid phone.. i have actually witnessed this in our school and its plain SICK!!!! the worst thing of all is the " infatuation" crap... the guy and girl touch... they fall in love.. electricityam!... ehn vittula misaram illayenthra?.... there some who really do fall in love but... how many relationships will last based on looks? I'm not blaming movies entirely its just most youths of today are very IMPRESSIONABLE,,, AND the messages out there are sad.. ( geez.. i feel like i'm some old geeser or somethin) as one of u said.. rape= suicide or marrying the freak that did that to u.. and so on... ahhh what is the world coming too??????.... ????????////////?????????????????????????????????????????? aji
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-22-00, 09:41 PM (EST)
	21. "Don't feel like an old geezer..."
	If talking about the way things are now is being an old geezer, count me in. It's sad how young adults are impressionable nowadays. I've heard of stories of how some Tamil teenagers/adults fight over a gal. Thats pathetic. Like a comedian said in a movie, "Mannuku saahurathu punniyam. Ana, ponnuku saahurathu kevalum." "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-22-00, 09:30 PM (EST)
	20. "I agree..."
	I agree with your notion that even if movies don't want to contribute to the healthy growth of the society, they should never hinder progress by providing idiotic ideas to the public. For example, most people have seen so many love or love-related stories, that each and every movie-goer is a veritable fountain of wisdom on the subject of love. I can deal with one or two love stories, but the way Tamil directors are numbing our senses with their love films is really irritating at times. Of what use will showing such films be to society? None, whatsoever! "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	mpancha	Jul-22-00, 01:16 PM (EST)
	63. "RE: There are some....."
	Movies, music, novels... none of those things create crime. People are the cause of crime. Idiot parents not teaching their kids right from wrong are the cause of crime. If you go out and mimic something that happened in a movie, that's not the movie's fault, that's your fault and yours only. Think about it. Adolph Hitler went and killed millions of Jews. What movie was he watching? What kind of music was he listening to? Jeffrey Dalmer ate people. What movie did he get that from, and what kind of music was he listening to? Of course violence and crime happen in movies, but where do you think writers and directors get their ideas? from reality, from things they see in their everyday life. If I want to see violence I'll go downtown, I don't need to go to them movies to see that. The only reason people point their fingers at movies is because they need a scapegoat. Movies aren't going to fight back. I would finish this, but I have to get to work. Later. ********** You don't love a woman because she is beautiful, She is beautiful because you love her. **********
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angel	Apr-22-00, 12:01 PM (EST)
18. "i think..."
it all depends on the movie goers. all movies have some lesson in them, it's up to the ppl who are seeing to recognize it. movies are for enterainment, watch it for 2 hours. talk at the good parts, good things for two days. and that is about it. it's enterainment. movies has to make things obvious, and maybe misleading, but it's all done to prove the movies' lesson(s). as for ppl who copy the stars, it's just not done in tamil. everyone does it. it shows their interest. i see ppl everyday singing to their fav song, either it's tamil, english, chinesse or any other language. and for girl dressing in star like clothing...it is also done in all other cultures...it's about the style of the clothing not about the ppl who wear them. ppl don't necssarily mean they want look like them, it just means that they like the style.
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-22-00, 09:49 PM (EST)
	22. "That can't be it..."
	Directors and others who make the movie have a duty to do for the public. They can't just go on showing idiotic things to the public in the name of entertainment. They have to be more responsible than that! You said people wear "filmy" clothes not necessarily because they want to but,because they like the style? That doesn't make sense. Why would you do something that you don't want to? You said that all movies have some sort of lesson in them. Your right. But most movies have bad lessons. "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	angel	Apr-23-00, 10:02 AM (EST)
	23. "like i said..."
	it depends on the public. you see the negative sides. i see the positive sides.
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	anu	Apr-23-00, 12:23 PM (EST)
	24. "filmy clothes..."
	if you go to a damn store in gerrard street for example .. you'll all know what i'm talking about... You pick up a lengha suit cause it looks nice ... what do they tell you its a nakma suit, ramba siut, meena suit the whole works.. then if you are disgusted by this and find a really gorgeous thing... they tell you its from some sort of designer.it costs 300$ ... why cuz... some stupid actress wore an item like that... Are they giving you much of a choice noo.. I mean for sarees..come on its just sad.. okay maybe one might say since i'm a teen that I have bought into to this..but this is not true . how abt my mother thatn.. if she picks up a saree. what do they say.. aishwarya rai saree.. roja saree and all the rest. when in actuality i don't even remember Aish having worn any sarees... I have tried going into stores and saying i want something simple.. with no actresses name in front of it... they look at me as if though i'm crazy... and show me something cheap ass.. its come to a point were if you want qulity you gotta give in for these things.... atleast in lenghas .. i have seen...\ so sad.. don't you ppl think,... aji
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	IceKutti	Apr-23-00, 03:24 PM (EST)
	25. "ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh "
	i know eh... i went to get a saree for mom in gerrad street.. and it was this beautiful blue.. really heavy saree... the dude said somethin movie name to it... sheesh... but i liked it so i got it. but never seen the saree bein warn in movies... in the other part of that same store.. they had sarees such as shalini sarees.. u know from amarkalam... aiyoooo kadavuley....... and those saree blouses with hundred & 5 cuts.. just cuz some simran wore it in a movie they make hundreds liek it. (rolls her eyes) mmmm one thing though... i liked playin hide and seek with my niece and nephew in that store... hehe... oops.. ehem. back to the point.. when will we be free of this?? ~ÏçêKüTTî~
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	mpancha	Jul-31-00, 09:34 PM (EST)
	64. "RE: filmy clothes..."
	I don't really see that as bad. That's just store owners doing good business. They know that there are gullible people out there who will pay $300 for that outfit. If you really wanted that outfit, you could look someplace besides Gerrard street for that outfit. You're paying for the name, not the outfit. Just like Nike, Nike shorts cost 10-20 dollars more than just plain shorts because they have the swoosh or they say Nike on them. ********** You don't love a woman because she is beautiful, She is beautiful because you love her. **********
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-24-00, 04:37 PM (EST)
	29. "What about the young kids..."
	Do they see the negative side or the positive side? Or do they just get brain washed by whatever garbage the film people show? The small kids are in no position to differentiate between whats right or wrong. We should teach them. The directors should teach them. That's what I mean't by saying that directors and film people should be more responsible. "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	anu	Apr-24-00, 07:18 PM (EST)
	31. "young kids?= brainwashed..."
	its simple kids are brainwashed whether it be.. in english things or tamil.. I mean when a kid thinks he can fly.. hes superman.. U know what u got.. also the pokeman.. digimon... pichachoo ... rychoo... my cousins gotten iton fights because of these damn cards... i seriously think that is sad!!! there was this niner i was talking to he showed me his file of collectible card from pokemon... i asked him how much it would be worth, jokingly.... the little rascal took out his calculator and started calculating.. the collection he had was app. worth $ 200- 250... I call that BRAINWASHED.. aji
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-24-00, 10:45 PM (EST)
	35. "Please don't make fun of Pokemon...."
	It hurts me...yawwn.... "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	anu	Apr-25-00, 11:26 AM (EST)
	40. "ughhh.."
	i'm soo sooorry did NOT KNOW u ppl... FEEEEEELLLTT THIS STRONGLY abt pokemon.. i take it back.. if its not pokemon.. it somethin else such as dragon ball-z or some other jap anime... ( i'm not offending anybody am i?) or even you know superman, batman,,,, and soo on... i guess more ppl than i thought have been brainwashed! aji
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	MKB	Apr-25-00, 01:37 PM (EST)
	45. "Hey chill........GRANNY"
	Now you just gone on and dissed my show, DBZ and pokemon isn't that bad either... Everybody likes to escape reality..... Let them do wat they want. You complain a lot girl, and you are the only one..... Im so sorry but I got to say it..... "YOUR SOOOOOO MAAAAATUUUUUUURE!" BHOOYA GRANDMA! BHOOYA! "Bhaya"
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	anu	Apr-25-00, 07:13 PM (EST)
	52. "tsk.tsk...don't u"
	know.. if ur gonna call me granny.. that you should not be talking like this...grandson(heheheheheheheh) hey..just cuz i think ppl are brainwashed doesn't mean i don't love t.v shows... at one point of my life.. i used to come home for lunch just to watch sailor moon.. pathetic huh!!! you probably already think I'm strange but my thing is if something is overly hyped abt.. talked too much abt.. liked too much.. I WILL MAKE IT A POINT NOT TO LIKE IT... I know i'm strange.. my parents think the same thing... ... I'm sorry i offended you abt the dragon ball z thing.. but as i said... its a little craxy with six yr olds.. mybe. u did not NOTICE the part where i said my six yr old cuz is getting into fights beacause of these things... thats just sad... do see where i'm getting at the bad influence to youngsters... ???? hello.. read the entire thing.. first.. okey...
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	MKB	Apr-26-00, 01:05 PM (EST)
	59. "yeah......"
	Don't laugh......but I used to watch Sailor Moon too. But then it really got pathetic..... Whose this cuz of yours sounds like a real cool grandparent! Hopefully, he isn't as tight as you, anyhow how bad could he be... he watches DBZ!!! Hey, I watch it more than the ave. child, I ain't going hype.....Although I used to when I was his age over thunder cats, Brave Star and He-man. But look how I turned out..... Its a phase in life! I think every body goes through it! "Bhaya"
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-25-00, 06:03 PM (EST)
	51. "May I direct your attention to the..."
	YYYYYYAAAWWWWWWNNNNN! "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	angel	Apr-24-00, 08:22 PM (EST)
	33. "it's entertainment!"
	if it wuz facts, nothing but facts, it would be no interest to the audience. movies are fantacied. it is fake. at least that is what i think. if ppl go out be like the stars then that's their stupidity. it's not the movies. it's the individuals. movies deliver what is entertainment, what is fantacy. and in these fantacies, there are some good lessons to learned when it is taken the ultimate measures. and in the old movies, the lessons are clear, and in the newer movies are hidden. 'cause the society changes, lifestlye changed and so therefore movies changed to suit them.
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-24-00, 11:04 PM (EST)
	36. "Facts? Lessons?"
	LAST EDITED ON Apr-25-00 AT 00:09 AM (EST) LAST EDITED ON Apr-25-00 AT 00:04 AM (EST) You said there are hidden meanings in all movies. Let me describe a scene from a new movie, Santhitha Velai. In the scene, Roja walks behind Karthik in sort of a bridge on the beach shore. Suddenly she slips and falls down. This sort of bridge is less than a minute from the shore. Yet by the time, Karthik carries Roja to the shore, night has already fallen. And out of nowhere there are trees with birds and rain suddenly pours drenching Roja's sari and they start singing. Big surprise!! Yawwnn.... What facts and what lessons and hidden meanings are found in this scene? Someone please tell me. Movies always don't have to be made up of facts. But at least why can't directors use their common sense and at the same time stop insulting the viewer's intelligence? In Mugavari, its a perfectly sunny day and suddenly rain starts to pour as if its the monsoon, for one stupid song. I don't know about others, but I found that supremely insulting to my intelligence. Whatever intelligence that I possess. "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	mpancha	Jul-31-00, 09:39 PM (EST)
	65. "RE: What about the young kids..."
	the young kids beleive what they see, that's true, all little kids are like that. But teaching them right and wrong is the parents and families responsibility, not the directors. That's right up there with blaming movies and music for people murdering people. Did Hitler decide to commit genocide because of a song he heard? Was a it a movie he saw as a young child that led him to persecute the Jews? Nope... he was just messed up in the head, loco en la cabesa, avun oru loosu, he was nuts. That's why he did it. What young kids do, the way they act, its a direct reflection of the people who are supposed to raise them, the parents. If the parents let the tv be a babysitter, again, its the parents fault. Pointing fingers at a director is just passing the blame. ********** You don't love a woman because she is beautiful, She is beautiful because you love her. **********
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MKB	Apr-24-00, 12:11 PM (EST)
26. "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!"
STOP WHINNING...... You wanna watch a program or movie thats informative then watch the damn DISCOVERY CHANNEL... And as for the sarees and other cultural clothes, go and buy something thats not named after a movie star! You guys whine as if you want something and after you get it, your dissatisfied... e.g. You hate Calvin Klein designer clothing.....and yet you still buy it? The reality of it all is that you should be glad to have wat you have......Be happy, because it could be something worse. "Bhaya"
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	IceKutti	Apr-24-00, 01:08 PM (EST)
	27. "smile..."
	makes life a better living hell he he he... oppz ~ÏçêKüTTî~
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	MKB	Apr-25-00, 01:44 PM (EST)
	47. "Your on CANDID CAMERA!"
	I hate that show. "Bhaya"
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	IceKutti	Apr-25-00, 01:47 PM (EST)
	48. "lets add that to the "i hate that show" list shall we..... "
	huhuhuhu.... damn i better go to class.... (looks left and right and..zzz) ~ÏçêKüTTî~
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-24-00, 03:01 PM (EST)
	28. "Look whose talking about whining..."
	Such an ironic life, ain't it? "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	MKB	Apr-24-00, 06:14 PM (EST)
	30. "Funny you'd said that....."
	LAST EDITED ON Apr-24-00 AT 06:17 PM (EST) Life has come to an all time low when the time came for you to say LIFE IS IRONIC!!! "Bhaya"
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-24-00, 10:39 PM (EST)
	34. "But..."
	I thought life already fell to an all time low, when YOU, of all people, started to complain about whining. Hmmm.... "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	MKB	Apr-25-00, 11:58 AM (EST)
	42. "nahhhhh.............I won't even bother...."
	LAST EDITED ON Apr-25-00 AT 11:59 AM (EST) Just a little reminder, I can easily say something about your v----! "Bhaya"
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-25-00, 06:00 PM (EST)
	50. "I'm so scared...."
	"The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	anu	Apr-24-00, 07:27 PM (EST)
	32. " whinnning???/"
	i 'm soooo sorry to say this. but... I actually believe what i say.. that is most of the time.. 95% atleast.... for designer clothings.. I 'm not actually crazy enouight o go buy some bright ugly shirt for $150 just cause its tommy hilfiger... I mean thats just plain ...duhhhhh... not only is the damn thing bright and bright.. all its got is that little stich of the tommy logo.. oh and sometimes it says tommy... thats stupid.. i'm sorry to say this to all those tommy wearers out there.. i mean there are things ppl buy just for the damn name.. theres a girl in my class.. there isn' t single damn thing that you see on her thats not designer name.. why she does this.. i don't know.. mwbe it s to become poular or something.. but frankly thats all in her head . she really doesn't have to wear designer labels to be recognised.. as for the tamil clothes.. sometimes it becomes the point were you either get quality.. in some sort of clothes dat has an actresses name attached to it. or you get crapp...ITS JSUT LIKE THAT.. I mean how many lenghas can you buy thats really good without an actresses name on it.. NONE.. trust me i have LOOKED... AND no i'm not whining.. simply stating the facts. abt how sad it is... aji
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-24-00, 11:13 PM (EST)
	37. "He was blaming everyone else except himself..."
	To be honest, I wouldn't mind wearing designer clothes or what not. It seems, designer clothes in one of the major ways to be in the "in" crowd. Our action is ruled by others and not ourselves. I hate to say it, but its true. "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	MKB	Apr-25-00, 11:56 AM (EST)
	41. "try!!!"
	Custom tailored clothing...... Besides have you ever stop to think, that people who own those stores are tired of hearing......."Owe, Owe can I see that bright blue, with all the flashy glittery things on them"........ Atleast by this way they can easily Identify it and people can feel better once they know that they have something which was worn in a movie. Its all media and propaganda and so on and so forth....... Don't like it!.......then stop complaining and do something about it! "Bhaya"
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	Pillayar	Apr-25-00, 06:41 AM (EST)
	38. "want more.."
	always ask for more.. always ask for better things.. i mean where would v b if we did ask for betta things?
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Pillayar	Apr-25-00, 06:59 AM (EST)
39. "in some ways..."
In the old movies educated the young who knew nothing of the world, e.g pple who smoked in old movies turned out to b baddies...so kids always wanting to b heros..would learn that smoking is bad.. now days smoking is seen as a "cool" thing to do, so kids now start smoking as soon as they can.. another thing with old movies...they showed raping as a bad thing, only the bad guy tries to rape da woman..so da kid learns to respect da woman.. now days...kids watching movies think "if i rape her she will love me" ...mm...so much improvement
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	MKB	Apr-25-00, 01:41 PM (EST)
	46. "huh?"
	What did you see or wat movie did I miss here? Ok here is a better question......Wat movie inspired you to rape someone? Anything ill, you say WHOA! you know wat Im saying..... "Bhaya"
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	anu	Apr-25-00, 07:18 PM (EST)
	53. "what da..."
	actually i'll jsut watch the guyx answer this one...aji
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	Pillayar	Apr-26-00, 07:49 AM (EST)
	55. "thanks anu,.,."
	you are finally making sense..
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	Pillayar	Apr-26-00, 07:47 AM (EST)
	54. "well.."
	sEthu, i am not saying it inspired me to rape, but his actions seemed a bit heavy handed..
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	MKB	Apr-26-00, 09:59 AM (EST)
	56. "Yep....Yep"
	I definitely missed that movie, it is on my must see listed for the summer.....I missed a lot of movies......dang! Don't think I will have enough time to watch'em all by the end of summer. Dang.....dang.....dang! "Bhaya"
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-26-00, 03:18 PM (EST)
	60. "Am I the only one..."
	Who understood Pillayar's cynicism? Hmm... "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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	FBIAGENT	Apr-25-00, 05:54 PM (EST)
	49. "Hahaha..."
	"The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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mpancha	Jul-21-00, 03:32 PM (EST)
61. "RE: Tamil Movies: Educating Or Misleading The Public?"
Tamil movies focus on trivial matters such as love because they are just movies. THey are there purely for entertainment. ANyone who watches a movie purely for educational purposes needs to get a little educated. If you want something which will stimulate you mentally, you watch a documentary, or a docudrama... something which is at least partially based on fact. Movies aren't. They are fiction. To watch them without that understanding is, for lack of a better word, stupid. The questions you asked, about 'this' being fair, right, and wanting change have no bearing on the movie industry because they are not out to educate you. Rajini didn't make the movie 'Paadaiyappa' or any other movie he made, to further your understanding of the world. He made it to make himself some money, popularity, and to give you something to do with your free time. Something to do for fun. That's really all there is to a movie... something to do for fun, to waste your time with... not to get smarter. For that they have schools. ********** You don't love a woman because she is beautiful, She is beautiful because you love her. **********
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	FBIAGENT	Aug-05-00, 08:40 PM (EST)
	66. "RE: Tamil Movies: Educating Or Misleading The Public?"
	As one of the most popular medium of communication in society, especially in a Tamil society, directors have to be more responsible. May I remind you that some of the best Tamil movies ever were educational(and actually had a story line)for the public and not just a time-pass. "The Truth Is Out There. In Search of It." -FBIAGENT
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tamillan2001	Dec-15-00, 08:47 AM (EST)
68. "RE: Tamil Movies: Educating Or Misleading The Public?"
i have a question , to what heights has kamal hasan taken the tamil cinema? will he allow his daughter to act in such a scene with vijay, ajit, surya in future?(exactly like tht one what he did with rani mukerji in his ##### movie) What indians need is a proper sex education. kamal hasan is not a good entertainer, he is a sex pervert who doesent know anything about the tamil culture. what the ##### he did for technology advancement. appreciate the technicians who work in a movie not this pervert. he has been copying movies from other languages, countries nearly for 10 years now , has he grown at least to the ##### size of actors like "Eddie murphy"? did you guys get a chance to read about his politics to send his ##### movie hey ram as the oscar nomine? he royally fucked up the fantastic movie "Bharathi" and "santhosh sivans "Terrorist" refer to Times of India regarding this. what is he trying to do? educate the audiances? he loves flattery. bullshit. he can never grow up in live. what ever award he got , hemight have got through some bullshit politics. days are not very far that he'll start acting in porno movies. we'll wellcome that but ask him not to ##### with tamil movies that in the name of "world standard" who defines the world standard and what does it mean? introducing fucking and kissing scenes in his movies? he talks about nude and nudity in ancient culture. bullshit, out ancestors kept things things in their place. sex love were given proper respect and should be within 4 walls not like this pevert who cant give a single box office hit. I request kamal fans to watch Bharathi once and his crucked minded bullshit politics . every one knows who is there in the award committie. what ever awards this pevert has got is a piece of #####.
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